Gomer, Magog, Tubal, Meshech, Togarmah

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Gomer, Magog, Tubal, Meshech, Togarmah

Post  A Bible Student on Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:07 am

Although Gomer, Magog, Tubal, Meshech, and Togarmah figure highly in a future war, not much else is said of these places or persons.  They are all closely related and so it wouldn't be surprising if they were located in generally the same region.

Genesis 10:2-3
The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.  And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

Ezekiel 27:13-14
Javan, Tubal, and Meshech, they were thy merchants: they traded the persons of men and vessels of brass in thy market.  They of the house of Togarmah traded in thy fairs with horses and horsemen and mules.

Togarmah is noted as specifically being in the north.

Ezekiel 38:6
Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

Note above that Javan is also a brother to Gomer, Tubal, and Meshech.  Javan is universally believed to have founded the Greek isles.  The only nation not already identified in the middle-east and is also to the north of Israel, is Turkey.  Turkey and Greece are very near each other, which lends more confidence in this suggestion.

Some of the suggested locations (from the links at the top of this discussion) place these ancients in Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine, and southern Russia.

Gomer:
The Hebrew name Gomer is widely considered to refer to the Cimmerians (Akkadian Gimirru, "complete"), who dwelt on the Eurasian Steppes

Cimmerians:
ancient people of S Russia

Magog:
Josephus identified the offspring of Magog as the Scythians, a name used in antiquity for peoples north of the Black Sea.
(Ukraine and southern Russia).

Tubal
Many authors, following the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (1st century AD), related the name to Iber- Caucasian Iberia. Concerning the question of the ethnic affinity of the population of Tubal, Josephus wrote: "Tobal gave rise to the Thobeles, who are now called Iberes" - Caucasian Iberia
The map below shows Caucasian Iberia being where modern day Georgia is now.

Togarmah
According to The Georgian Chronicles and The History of Armenia Togarmah lived in Babylon who received the land between two Seas (Black Sea and Caspian Sea) and two Mountains (Mount Elbrus and Mount Ararat) in his possession when people started division of lands and migration in different parts of the world. He then settled near Mount Ararat and divided his land among his sons
According to other records, Togarmah is regarded as the ancestor of the Turkic peoples.

Looking at the map of the Black Sea area (below) and compare it to the Map of Modern Day Black Sea Nations, you can see how these areas are all connected.

Map showing Ancient Iberia / Modern Georgia

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